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Thursday, January 01, 2009

Take Manny Rumors With a Grain of Salt

First off, I wanted to wish everyone visiting a Happy New Year, as we say goodbye to 2008 and hello to 2009. Now, since the holidays are all over with, I would expect to see Sabean start putting some final touches on the team as they get ready to break for Arizona in the middle of next month. One thing that I highly doubt seeing happen between now and then though is to see the Giants sign Manny Ramirez. ManRam has kind of been under the radar this offseason as most of the attention has gone to the younger players, Mark Texeira and C.C. Sabathia. However, now that those two players are off limits, Ramirez now becomes the new jewel of the free agent class and some people (or at least some people in Denver at the Post where this story broke) now predict that the Giants have just as good a shot, if not better, than anyone at landing the mercurial left fielder. Now, I'm not saying I doubt it would happen because I don't want to see it. Manny would be just what the doctor ordered for this team. Not only would fill up the ballpark, he'd give them an offensive weapon they haven't had since Barry Bonds was last himself, in the 2004 season. He's also in a market which is pushing him to take a 2-3 year deal and if the Giants could get Manny for only 2 seasons, that could make a lot of sense. I think he's still going to be a top hitter for another couple of years and he's better in left than a lot of people give him credit for being.

Now, that being said, I still highly doubt there is any real shot that he lands in San Francisco. Manny right now makes more sense in the AL and you just have to believe that somewhere, there will be some AL or desperate NL team that jumps in at the final second and gives him his wanted (4 year deal). I think Boras brought the Giants name up in effort to raise the bidding war for ManRam's services. Also, if the Giants were to obtain Ramirez, it would essentially ruin their plan of building for the future. It would likely cost 28 year-old Fred Lewis (who some see as a rising star) his job and force Sabean into trying to build around another aging veteran who won't be around in a couple more seasons, a lot like he did towards the end of Barry Bonds career and the sole reason why the Giants have been so bad over the last 3 seasons. Now, again, not saying Ramirez in left wouldn't be a welcome sight for the weak offensive team like the Giants, I just don't think it's a real possibility and like the C.C. Sabtathia rumors, I hope this doesn't grow into some sort of "the Giants were supposed to get Manny" once he signs somewhere else. Something tells me Sabean isn't even talking to Boras right now and if he is, it's about Joe Crede and not Manny Ramirez. Sorry Giants fans, I know it would be nice to think about, but do you really envision another, bigger than the team left fielder coming aboard so soon? I just can't.
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  • At 7:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    manny ramirez huh? Well we had Barry here so I could see Manny fitting in. He's basically a right handed version of Barry when Barry was that age. Very similar players. And if that's the case, Ramirez would be worth 25 million a year. He was scary with the Dodgers last season. He hit 17 home runs with a .396 batting average in less than half a season. Amazing numbers. I think he should stay in the NL but I think he'll go to one of the LA teams.

  • At 10:15 PM, Anonymous Jesse said…

    manny has horrible defense skills. Although he def can handle a bat, I don't like the guy, but he would help the offense be provide the power the giants need. With the pitching we got and ramierez in the line up, could turn out to be a good 09 season... Agree????

  • At 1:07 AM, Anonymous J-Bill said…

    Manny's an A-Hole. He makes Barry look like an angel. Big Nooo on Manny. Even if he will hit 35 home runs and drive in 100 if they signed him. He'd make us so frustrated. He was on his best behavior in LA last year because he was in his FA year. He's going to go back to lazy Manny where he gets hot in spurts then goes in a slump and pouts for a few weeks. He's just a baby and I want no part of him.

    -Jason Billingsly aka J-Bill

  • At 8:54 AM, Blogger rxmeister said…

    I agree with everything you said except for the part about how some team would jump in at the end at get him. This guy's price tag at his age disqualifies almost everybody. Only big market teams need apply, and from what I've heard the Yankees are done spending, the Mets are saving whatever money they have left for pitching, the Red Sox are certainly not going down the Manny road again, and the Angels are not interested. That leaves the Dodgers and Giants, and we don't know for sure if the Giants are even interested. He's signing with one or the other for sure. I expect it to be the Dodgers, because he liked it there last year, and the Dodgers would have to be broke to sit still and watch him go to their arch rivals. Still, if he does somehow wind up with the Giants, they'll definitely be the pick in the NL west for 2009.

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  • At 3:51 PM, Blogger Trevor said…


    The Angels just lost out on a guy they targeted in Teixera and so did the Nationals. You'd have to believe that if they're ready to spend that kind of money on Tex, they might consider Manny. Also, the Dodgers are not out of this thing at all. Still at least 3-4 legit options for Manny at this point, and that's just the teams that we know of. Who knows, the Rays have made surprising moves in the past. Manny is going to whatever team shows him the money, this has nothing to do with going to a winning club or being in a "comfortable" situation like some FA's like you to believe.

  • At 3:54 PM, Blogger Trevor said…

    Especially with Boras as the lead negotiator.

    I still don't see how the Dodgers would let him get away after what he did for them last summer. Sure he may have outplayed himself even a little in LA (.396 av) but Manny is still a 35 home run, 120 RBI guy who is surprisingly durable, even at age 36.

  • At 4:51 PM, Blogger rxmeister said…

    I definitely agree about the Dodgers being the team he winds up with, but the others one don't make sense. He's too old for the Nats to want, they're several years away. Tampa Bay has never spent anywhere near the price that Manny is asking for, and although the Angels would make sense, they have plainly come right out and said they have no interest in him. For some reasons the Dodgers' seems a little strapped for cash this offseason, which is why I give the Giants' a shot at signing him if they really want him, but it sure seems like it's between just us and them.

  • At 5:37 PM, Blogger Trevor said…


    You just stated all the reasons why the Giants have even a shot at ManRam. But I just still don't see him fitting here, for some reason.

    And after the Angels missed out on Tex, they may have changed their view on Manny. Him and Vlad would be lethal together.

    BTW RX, are you a Giants fan? You seem to be one of the most consistent visitors here of late. Thanks for contributing, I really appreciate your views and what you bring to the site. Keep it up bro.

  • At 2:57 PM, Blogger Trevor said…

    BTW RX, the Rays just added Burrell so yes, as I suspected, they were looking to add.


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