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Thursday, December 17, 2009

Trade Talk For Uggla Heating Up?

According to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, and MLB Trade Rumors, the Giants and the Marlins appear to be getting more serious in their discussions about Dan Uggla. There have been some names exchanged by each team and things could be getting closer to being completed.

What makes me think that trade talks are actually making progress is that someone from Miami is reporting it, rather then just speculation from baseball writers on the Internet. Still, it doesn't mean that the Giants are going to end up with Dan Uggla, but it does mean that it's becoming more of a possibility. Apparently the Marlins and Giants have discussed Jonathan Sanchez, Clayton Tanner and one other mid-level pitching prospect, but I have a hard time seeing the Giants part with Jonathan Sanchez, who's still under team control for 3 more years and is only getting better each season (4.24 era, 177 k's, 1.37 WHIP, .221 BAA in 163 IP). Sanchez really came into his own last year after throwing his no-hitter in mid-July. After the all-star break, he went 5-4 with a 3.83 era and 98 k's in 84 innings. All signs are pointing towards Sanchez really breaking out in 2010, and I think a 15-win, sub-4 era season is very realistic and I think he'll finally make it to the 200 inning plateau, which would mean big strikeout numbers. Uggla is a very nice, middle of the order presence, but he hit .242 last year and is hitting just .249 over his last 3 seasons. Not to mention, acquiring Uggla would force someone out of position, weakening the offense. As bad as the Giants need the 30 home run potential, I'd hate to see them deal away from their strength for a second basemen right now.

I would, however, be throwing packages at Florida that aren't headlined with Jonathan Sanchez. It looks like the Marlins have some interest in Clayton Tanner, and maybe the Giants could add Kevin Pucetas, who's major league ready now, and a guy like Kevin Frandsen, who could go in and start at second base for the Marlins and be under their control for a while on the cheap. There have been so many reports about the Marlins needing to get out from under Uggla's 7+ million dollar contract for 2010. Everyone knows the Marlins want to get rid of him, and because of it, they aren't going to get top value in return. And if that is indeed the case, I would think the Giants could pry him away from Florida without giving up too much. If they do figure out a reasonable deal for him, I would immediately look into other positional possibilities for Uggla. First base would be one position that might be an option. He has familiarity with the right side of the infield after all, and I think first base would be an easier transition for him than third base or out to left field. It would also allow Pablo Sandoval to stay at third, where he has more value to the Giants. I don't think Uggla is the savior the Giants are looking for on offense though, and although he'd be a big help, they'd still need another bat or two to really complete their offense. If the Giants can't get Uggla for a reasonable deal, then I'd turn my focus to Adam LaRoche, who I've kind of been pulling for Sabean to sign as the teams first basemen. His power and run production numbers are very similar to Uggla's, plus he plays a very good defensive first base and hits for more average than the sought-after second basemen.
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  • At 2:16 AM, Anonymous Bleacher Bum 138 said…

    Giants Need Power. I'd trade Sanchez for Uggla, He'd be sweet right in there behind Pablo Sandoval. I know the GIants pitching is solid, but we have Bumgarner ready to take Sanchez's spot. I say go for the bat.

  • At 3:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    we dont need another 2nd i know uggla is better offensivly than 90% of the current team. but adam laroche is the answer and wait for the youngings to mature

  • At 1:45 PM, Blogger King of Cali said…

    The Hot Stove is starting to get really hot for the Giants. I think Sabean is really starting to feel the pressure, and will need to make a move fast. Check out the post I did today about the Hot Stove is Starting to Boil!

    ~King of Cali
    All The Latest SF Giants Rumors Updated Daily!

  • At 11:19 AM, Blogger Drew said…

    Are you kidding...he hit .242 last year and is hitting just .249 over his last 3 seasons...might as well have Frandson start! I prefer consistency over power.

  • At 3:12 PM, Blogger Trevor Cole said…

    Yeah, I think Uggla is being overrated a bit by the Marlins. Sure, he hits for more power than your standard middle infielder, but his defense and batting average are below league average. That's why he'd likely be playing a different position if the Giants did obtain him. I can put up with the .250'ish average as long as he keeps up that power and OBP and isn't hurting the team defensively. But I certainly wouldn't part with a 27 year-old left-hander who threw no-hitter last season and struck out 177 batters in 161 innings while sporting a .221 BAA and is getting better and better each year (Jonathan Sanchez) in order to get him. A combo of Fred Lewis (who could play left field and hit 2nd for Florida, moving Chris Coglhan th third) and Kevin Frandsen (who could take over for Uggla) would seem to be much more even.

  • At 3:49 PM, Blogger Schruender said…

    Agreed that Sanchez can't be in a trade for Uggla. I don't know if Frandsen would be the answer though because the Marlins are probably going to be moving Chris Coghlan to second once they deal Uggla. That's the real reason (aside from money) that they are so willing to deal him.

  • At 9:24 PM, Blogger Trevor Cole said…

    They will put him at second, unless maybe they get another cheaper 2nd basemen, in which case I was thinking maybe Coghlan could play third. But yes, Coghlan is a natural second baseman... I know the Marlins were talking about moving Hanley to the outfield at some point, and maybe they'd have some interest in Manny Burris in a Uggla deal... Anyway, point is, I just wouldn't give up much for Uggla. I'd much rather keep the chips and sign LaRoche, who put up similar numbers and wouldn't cause anyone to move out of position.

    The Marlins are supposedly offering a second player if the Giants give up Sanchez, but the only way I'd even consider it is if the Giants could get one of their young arms in return like Chris Volstead, Anibal Sanchez or Sean West. And I still don't know that I'd give up Jonathan Sanchez.


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