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Thursday, December 11, 2008

Winter Meetings Accomplish Little

The Giants went into Las Vegas with a few different agenda's on mind (hopefully none of which included strippers, roulette tables and an array of intoxicants). One of which was to try and figure out a way to get power and a little bit of defense onto one of the infield corners. They also had CC Sabathia on their radar as well as Randy Johnson, who could serve as an insurance policy if Noah Lowry is unavailable come March and April. However the most newsworthy item that came from them this week is that Aaron Rowand will be moving down in the lineup. CC ended up in New York, which is for the better anyway. Him, Timmy and Matty would have been brutal for opposing hitters, but it's just too hard to tie up that much money into only two pitchers, especially with Lincecum getting ready cash in big in 2 years. And apparently the asking price for any young hitter who could help was too much. So, amongst all that talk, Brian Sabean, Dick Tidrow, Felipe Alou, Bruce Bochy and Co. have to feel somewhat defeated as they leave Vegas Thursday because they got absolutely nothing accomplished there. Supposedly instead of pursuing players who could help this team, Sabean and co. were busy having dinner with Aaron Rowand, and trying to figure out where Pablo Sandoval and Fred Lewis would hit in the lineup. I don't know, it's always good to start planning ahead, but finish putting your product together before you start discussing batting slots and what not. It's early December, not February. Although I really didn't expected the Giants to do anything earth shattering in Vegas, I did hope that they would have been more involved and had made some progress towards doing something helpful, at the least. Maybe they did and it just got kept behind the scenes, but judging by the way Sabean lashed out at reporters during closing interviews, I'd say it's not likely.

The lack of activity from the Giants over the last few weeks, has lead me and many who follow the team religiously think that the team they currently have will most likely be the team we see take the field April 5th. If that's the case, the Giants would head into the year with absolutely no back-up plan for corner infielders Travis Ishikawa and Pablo Sandoval, both of whom have barely gotten their feet wet at the big league level. Starting the year with this current group of guys would also mean another middle of the order including the likes of Bengie Molina, Randy Winn and Fred Lewis. No knock on any of them as they are all nice players, but Molina isn't a cleanup hitter and Winn and Lewis seem better fit for 2nd in the order, although having one of them hit third wouldn't be too bad. They still may make a move to add a bat, but agian, listening and reading Sabean's interviews from the meetings is leading me to believe that this team is practically set. Joe Crede is looking more and more intriguing by the day knowing. Crede comes with a back issue that isn't clear but as I've state here many times, a one year deal with an option wouldn't hurt anything. Signing someone seems like the only option to get some power into the lineup at this point, as any trade for any type of young hitter seems to have gone out the window as GM's started filtering out of the Bellagio Wednesday and Thursday. Again you never know with a guy like Sabean, but I would expect the Giants to stay very quiet the rest of the winter.
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  • At 12:09 AM, Anonymous alan122 said…

    The Giants are going to be boring on days lincecum doesn't pitch next year. Man it sucks to be a giants fan.

  • At 12:17 AM, Anonymous Behbigben15 said…

    I hear they may go after Arizona's Adam Dunn. That's a nice little power boost over at first base.

  • At 12:37 PM, Blogger rxmeister said…

    you say the Giants' did nothing at the winter meetings, but they signed THREE free agents before the meetings even started, while other teams were doing zippo. They're smart to not sign anyone else right now and wait for the prices to drop. What's the rush, spring training isn't until February. As for making possible trades, we heard the Sanchez rumors and nobody liked them, so we should be glad nothing happened there. I still expect the Giants to sign a starter like Randy Johnson, and maybe even one of the few power bats out there like Pat Burrell, but they're not close to signing anywhere right now and there's plenty of time. Three signings at this stage of the offseason is alot, unless you have billion dollar payrolls like the Yankees or Mets. Everybody is complaining too much.

  • At 2:48 PM, Blogger Trevor said…


    I agree, no use signing someone just so sign them. But the WM's were the best place to get some sort of deal done and you'd have to think that if Sabean came out of it as teed off as he sounded in his closing interviews, you'd have to assume things didn't go so well, or at least the way the Giants had hoped. Again, not complaining, next year is going to be another rebuilding year so we might as well see what the Ishikawa's and the Burriss' of the world can do. I don't mind seeing the kids play one bit, I just want to see at least one big hitter added somewhere. Sick of seeing this team losing 3-1 and seeing Cain or whoever pitch their tail off just for a L or ND.

  • At 11:56 PM, Anonymous Kyle G. said…

    If next year is going to be another rebuilding year, then why did we sign those three aging vets??? Sabean and the Giants have left me scratching my head once again. I would love to see them get the Big Unit for a season or two, but once again, a deal like that is only meaningful if you plan on contending. And we will not contend without one big bat in the lineup. I'm about sick of Sabean!

  • At 7:29 AM, Blogger rxmeister said…

    Trevor, I think the reason that Sabean was so pissed was that all the CC rumors made it look like the Giants' are loaded and have a fortune to spend this offseason. It's hard to tell the agents you are negotiating with that you are looking for less years at less money, when all the newspapers are speculating that you're offering 120 million dollars to one of the FA's that's out there.

  • At 2:52 PM, Blogger Trevor said…


    I agree, that is what pushed him over the top, but you could tell he had some pent up anger in there as well, likely from things not going the way he hoped they would, that's my guess. But yes, the CC thing probably pushed it over the pot, no doubt.

  • At 2:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think the giants will be better than people think. Sandoval and Lewis are very good young hitters and they have such good pitching. What's the old slogan in baseball, "good pitching beats good hitting".

    Plus I don't think their hitters aren't getting their proper respect. Rowand, Winn, Molina, and Renteria are good veteran players and are fine hitters. I think next year will be a good one for the Giants with the mix of veterans and rookies like Sandoval, manny Burriss, Travis Ishikawa and Nate Scherholtz. Maybe not the playoffs, but they will grow and maybe be ready for the playoffs in 2010. Gotta think optimistic Giants fans.

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